http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/topic/848/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Thu, 15 May 2008 01:15:09 GMT Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:20:01 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/topic/848/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/56625/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-56625 feeds@yuku.com (elsie) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/56625 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:20:01 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/56613/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-56613 feeds@yuku.com (bigmac79) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/56613 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:15:54 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/56603/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-56603 feeds@yuku.com (jmangie) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/56603 Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:43:26 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/56584/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-56584 Okay I looked for images of 1930's evening gowns and this is what I found on several different websites:

feeds@yuku.com (hannah kipje) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/56584 Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:40:40 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/56583/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-56583 The Green dress is being described in the book:

"Her latest and best piece, bought to celebrate the end of finals, before she knew about her miserable third, was the figure-hugging dark green bias-cut backless evening gown with a halter neck. Too dressy to have its first outing at home."
http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/56583 Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:21:17 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/55818/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-55818 feeds@yuku.com (elsie) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/55818 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:39:50 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/55806/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-55806 feeds@yuku.com (Bluebell66) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/55806 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 03:42:44 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/55781/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-55781 Well, I liked your interpertation as well, in fact, I'm trying to sort out for myself which one I love more. They both reflect "conflict" (as James will gladly call it), but I can't decide has a stronger effect. first be formal and then "explode" OR "explode" and then restrain yourself. I think I'm going with the last option, but it a difficult one. Very close...

I'm glad you remembered this part of the book, I thought I didn't... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (jmangie) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/55781 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:17:26 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/55760/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-55760
In the book, he writes the formal one then I was under the impression he 'ruined' it by adding on the extra... lines shall we say. I'm not saying the order in the film was wrong, I think it worked, but I preferred my interpretation of the book's order. It made it seem as if he was trying to write an apology letter, then just thought 'to hell with it' and... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Sophz456) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/55760 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:37:38 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/55659/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-55659 (and, of course, saw the movie) - I apologize in advance if this question was already been introduced, this MB is so huge by now, I haven't had the chance to check everything out.

In the movie, in the scene where he write the C*** letter feeds@yuku.com (jmangie) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/55659 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:16:01 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/54467/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-54467 You can never think TOO much about film.. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (hannah kipje) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/54467 Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:32:21 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/53880/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-53880 He offered Robbie some relief, in the form of his mother caring for him. Even if it was just an hallucination, he still had Grace there for him, didn't he?
Nettle was more tender in the film too. It made Robbie's final moments a little less harder to watch, because he had someone there being really nice and understanding, and caring about him.

The picture of cottage... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Bluebell66) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/53880 Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:06:43 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/53805/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-53805 Bluebell66 wrote:

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So maybe the scene could also be Robbie's last dream before dying? That they were finally there, in their heaven/haven?
I think that in one of the earlier posts in this thread I was talking about Robbie's delusions of having arrived at the cottage (after Nettle tells him, "We're there. This is it"), and that he couldn't leave ("I've decided to stay on for a bit");... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (hannah kipje) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/53805 Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:08:54 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/53789/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-53789 Bluebell, I really like your thought that the last scene is Robbie's "ending" (in life and in death) rather than Briony's. It is believable to me because Robbie believed he would "find you, love you, marry you, and live without shame" and that never wavered. "He had eyes of optimism" was used to describe Robbie in the book.

Your idea gives me the comfort that was lacking if the last scene was created by Briony for her own self-serving... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (elsie) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/53789 Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:43:32 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/53788/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-53788
I agree, it's up to the viewer to interpret the ending...I thought it was one of the saddest endings I've ever seen, even though they seemed so happy. Robbie's look reminded me that their happiness wasn't real, and would never be.
But some people interpret Robbie's look as something hopeful; that maybe, yes, there are other ways to achieve happiness, that even fictional happiness can be... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Bluebell66) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/53788 Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:45:54 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/53658/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-53658 feeds@yuku.com (InspectorWa) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/53658 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:33:47 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/53520/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-53520
I had the same reaction when I first watched the ending . I'm like, "Nooooooo -- this can't be happening!!" But I think it all comes down to personal interpretation -- so what is a happy ending? (I remembered that James had mentioned in one of his interview -- it's the viewer who chooses to accept the ending or not) Can't happiness be something experienced in a concrete way or can one still feels it through the metaphysical sense??? I'm... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (artbox101) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/53520 Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:30:05 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/53473/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-53473

Oh well. The first time I watched the film, that scene didn't offer me any comfort or relief. I thought that Robbie, with the sudden change on his expression, was telling us that there was never real happiness for them, that it was all an illusion, fabricated.

But when I watched the commentary, Joe Wright offered a much more... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Bluebell66) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/53473 Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:36:54 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/53319/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-53319 feeds@yuku.com (buttercup77) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/53319 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:42:07 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/reply/53230/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html#reply-53230 Oooh that's a good one Blue.. I don't have an answer ready though.. will need to think about that some more.. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (hannah kipje) http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/sreply/53230 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:55:30 GMT http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com/topic/848/t/Atonement-SPOILER-THREAD-.html Here you can can post about Atonement without using spoiler tags.
If you have not seen the film (or read the book) and do not wish to read spoilers, stay out of this thread
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