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DizzyMissLizzie1 |
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hannah kipje |
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It's been a while since I have seen this film, but I do remember I thought it was quite good and it made quite an
impression.
What stuck most was the paedophile being shown from a human side. Especially the ending when they discover him on the swings in the playground after he cut his own.. (do I remember that right?) I like the comparison to these grown-up to the 'little children' from the title. They do act like children a lot don't they? It's like a coming of age of adults that didnlt have enough childhood and are now sort of 'catching up'. Funny how they meet in the playground. And how they play this 'highschool' game of 'making the others think they kiss'.. I also remember how he was secretly checking out her body when they were at the swimming pool, like a schoolboy as well. Something else that stuck was the moment he is doing her in the cellar on the wasching machine and (I think) he asks her if she feels guilty and she sais 'no' and he sais 'I do'. I always wonder if people that are cheating think about that while they are doing it.. or if it doesn't come until afterwards.. so it was kinda .. I dunno.. to see him say he felt guilty but he kept on having sex anyway.. |
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Selivia |
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The side issue of the paedeophile was very interesting - he was also trapped as a child even though his body continued to grow. His mother was so strict and
prudish that he never escaped her - maybe she could not cope with him becoming a man, but she could control a child.
And yes, you remembered right about the self-mutilation. That sequence was well filmed/edited. She was approaching the park with her daughter who got away from her for a while, and he was approaching form another direction. You spend a few anxious moments wondering what he might do if he meets the girl, and still has the knife. It is not until the other man, the bigot who has been terrorising him as a salve to his own sense of uselessness. The combined misery of these two men brings about a new redemption for them both - as if the two destructive energies cancelled each other out. All the adults behaved like children. The spouses of the two lovers are no less responsible for the breakdown of their marriages, and sowed the seeds of the destruction by forcing the other two into a sense of loss and limbo and each others' arms. As for the lovers, they showed no more sense than a pair of truant school children. The naughtiness of what they were doing added to the excitement of their rendezvous. I think he only felt guilty because he relished feeling something, and it was after all his own place and his son could easily betray his secret, but on the other hand, maybe he needed that sense of guilt to empower him in the relationship. Maybe it was for that reason that he paused and took the skateboard challenge rather than complete the meeting - maybe he would not have been able to keep the same enthusiasm when the relationship was no longer a guilty secret. |
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hannah kipje |
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Oh NOW I remember.. it's the bigot that finds the paedophile.. that's why that scenes stuck to me.. the
redemption of them both.. without it actually being said out loud.. (right?)
During the scene in the car when the paedophile returns from his date with the young woman, I actually felt sorry for both of them.. his actions sort of turned her into a little girl as well.. but it was obvious he wasn't really in control of himself when he did that.. I liked that side story most, as you can tell by now I guess
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Selivia |
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Oh yes, the date scene. That was so awkward. At first it looks like it might work out, and even when he starts to go off the rails there's still some hope,
but it is all dashed in the end. Both of them were outsiders, they could have had half a chance together, but it wasn't to be.
As for the bigot and the paedophile, yes, I felt there was redemption for them both. And for once in his long life of failures, he takes the opportunity to take responsibility, to become an adult. |
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Both scenes are so heartbreaking though.. You know you are watching a good film when you can empathise with both a
paedophile and a bigot though..
I really liked the actor playing the peadophile
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Selivia |
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Yes, I admit there were a few tears when they finally came to their realisations and some understanding. Maybe that was the power that made this movie feel
"good" rather than the mainstream story which is almost a blind to this one.
What really annoyed me though, quite early in the movie, when we first meet the mother and her child at the park. When she can't find the snack she thought she had packed, the daughter hits her about the head. Not only does she not admonish the child but looks apologetically to the other women and they are all judging her rather than being horrorfied at the child's bechaviour (Okay, it is her fault for letting the daughter get away with it, but...) If that had ever happened to me, my kid would have scored a rather sharp smack to the back of the legs (open hand - not considered beating, hurts the deliverer as much as the recipient but the shock is sometimes enough to stop the child) and immediate return to the house. |
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hannah kipje |
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I think that scene is to show us that she cannot control her daughter at all and that she is very insecure towards the
other mothers... But I agree that it was actually PAINFUL to watch..
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True, about the lack of control thing - and it was balanced by his son controlling him too, and immediately abandoning him as soon as mum turned up. The two of
them really were two peas in a pod - totally out of control of their lives and those around them, treated like servants, invisible. It was almost a foregone
conclusion that they would gravitate towards each other.
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