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PaulaJoW	Health & Beauty		Lead	[-]
Permanent Resident Posts: 4408 12/03/2008 16:46 Existing just to kiss you Board Contributor	Tags : None I thought this might be a fun and helpful thread to share information about everything that encompasses those two categories - everything from fitness routines to beauty products to nutrition, etc. Anyone interested? I'd like to put a question out to all of you about vitamins. I don't take any and keep thinking I should be. What's your philosophy on this? (Disclaimer: Don't use any suggested or recommended product if you suspect it would be detrimental to your health and well-being)
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DizzyMissLizzie1		#1	[url]	[-]
Permanent Resident Posts: 3969 12/03/2008 19:43 Distressed Damsel	Good topic Paula!
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MsMarpleEM		#2	[url]	[-]
The Help (Mod Squad) Actually lives here Posts: 1847 12/03/2008 19:58 Minister of Shakespeare and Sheep Affairs	Actually I've been thinking for a while about opening a simular topic, I wanted to call it "better living" and ask for tips how to quit smoking. I had quit for some time but I started again at my new job. Everybody seems to smoke there. :o Check out the new Ewan McGregor Board Ewanland. Last Edited By: MsMarpleEM 12/03/2008 20:00. Edited 1 time.
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hannah kipje		#3	[url]	[-]
Permanent Resident Posts: 8633 13/03/2008 00:25 Master of the House (Owner) Slighty delusional yet harmless builder of this board grin	It's way too easy too get too much of a vitamin or minerals in your system when you take them in pill form (especially in the US where they have outrageous dosages of some supplements sold over the counter. Like 1000 mg Vit C. pills.) And there is more and more proof that even the ones we thought would simply pas s through your system if you had more than you needed, may be harmful too your health after all (try Googling: 'Vitame C overdose'for instance. I found that 2000 mg a day is considered an overdose and can cause upset stomach, diarrea, etc. That is only 2 of those US pills..) So if a normal diet will get you all you need, and you have no illnesses that prevent you from eating a normal diet, why would you risk it? If you do have such illnesses I would say: ask your doctor what you should or should not take and how much... That is just how I feel though.. http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com
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PaulaJoW		#4	[url]	[-]
Permanent Resident Posts: 4408 13/03/2008 01:57 Existing just to kiss you Board Contributor	Ya, 2,000 mgs of C sounds very high. When I feel a cold coming on, I take hits of 1,000 mgs (the tablet you dissolve in water). I think it helps. I generally find Vitamin C does upset my stomach though. I'm supposed to be taking Calcium but I find even that upsets my stomach. My doctor suggested a run-of-the-mill multi-vitamin (i.e. One-A-Day) if I wanted to take one. I don't like that they have dyes in them though - and the ones from the health food store (that are usually the size of footballs) really upset my stomach. I'm a decent eater, but could be better so I have been wondering whether I should start taking supplements.
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Larisie		#5	[url]	[-]
The Help (Mod Squad) Permanent Resident Posts: 3571 13/03/2008 05:19 Canadian Sweetheart	That's interesting. I'm currently taking a course for school on Wellness and Lifestyle. My prof suggests that vitamins (pill form) aren't good for you and not necessary, like Hannah said you could easily overdose and most people do. My prof also says that we should be eating 2 orange fruits and/or vegetables and dark green vegetables (lettuce, broccoli, asparagus, etc.) everyday. Paula, do you follow the Canada's food guide at all?
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PaulaJoW		#6	[url]	[-]
Permanent Resident Posts: 4408 13/03/2008 06:26 Existing just to kiss you Board Contributor	I follow it loosely, Larisie. I like and eat everything - vegetables, fruit, meat, dairy, grains, etc. We have a pretty healthy diet at our house (I do the shopping). We have salad and/or vegetables every night. The fruit bowl is always well-stocked. One thing I don't do is drink enough water. I'm a pop drinker - too much so. It would do me good to cut back on that. I like junk food in moderation. I don't sit with a bag of potato chips or cookies and polish them off. I only really want small amounts of that stuff at a time. Why does your prof say that vitamins are not good for you? It's certainly a HUGE industry. Are we buying into the marketing that we need this stuff?
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thistle1616		#7	[url]	[-]
Owns spare key to the front door Posts: 295 13/03/2008 08:52 Authoress, Idealist, History Enthusiast	I take Vitamin supplements only when I am around alot of sick people or I feel like I am gettin sick.. The doctors told me I had a horribly weak immune system so If I dont pump up my system, then I am sick most of the year So its a good and bad industry.. I think we put too much trust in the industry but its not all that bad.. It depends on how you use it.. and I think a One-A-Day wouldnt hurt you.. Specially if you think your might be lacking in vitamins although by the sounds you probably arent.. But like someone else mentioned talking to your doctor first is always the best way.. and quitting smoking is very hard Marple.. My mom is trying right now.. I know there is alot of things out there now to help you, but I dont know how you feel about taking a pill or not..Although the pills they usually prescribe for quitters are anti-depressants.. and in my opinion that isnt really getting to the root of the problem or solving much other than ONE of the possible side affects someone would face while quitting.. But I ve heard the patch helps? or they say the hardest part of quitting smoking is kicking the oral fixation.. and they have this little thing that is shaped similar to a cigarette and your suppose to get it out and use it everytime you want to smoke.. I think it might be some sort of enhaler or something to cut the cravings.. I will try to look it up and get back to you.
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InspectorWa		#8	[url]	[-]
Sleeps on the couch Posts: 1226 13/03/2008 21:20 Life Inspector	Concerning vitamins - I don't think that many many years ago before vitamin pills were created people suffered so much from the lack of vitamins (I guess these are ads that make us take them, not real physical need). I find taking any kind of pills unnatural (except if it is really needed to cure the disease and no other method will help). My life philosophy is - eat what you want and when you want. I trust my body and it always tells me what it needs. E.g. if I feel that I need milk, I just drink it. In such a way I get all necessary vitamins and minerals. Ellen, a friend of mine was smoking for years and she bought nicotine plasters, they are quite expensive, but she is not smoking for 5 months already.
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PaulaJoW		#9	[url]	[-]
Permanent Resident Posts: 4408 13/03/2008 23:47 Existing just to kiss you Board Contributor	I talked to my doctor today. I was getting my test results from my physical a couple of weeks ago. Other than slightly elevated cholesteral, everything is good. My mammogram/breast ultrasound came back back good too. I asked him about taking a multi-vitamin and he said, based on my diet, I probably didn't need one. Sorry, MsM, I can offer no help on the quitting smoking problem. I've never smoked. I know from friends though that it's one of the hardest things to kick. Some have done it cold turkey and others just have a lot more trial and error. Keep us posted on your progress. Oxy, how does your body tell you it needs milk?
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Larisie		#10	[url]	[-]
The Help (Mod Squad) Permanent Resident Posts: 3571 14/03/2008 04:52 Canadian Sweetheart	PaulaJoW wrote: Why does your prof say that vitamins are not good for you? It's certainly a HUGE industry. Are we buying into the marketing that we need this stuff? I think it's because people don't realize how many vitamins they are getting from the foods they eat. Not only fruits and vegetables have vitamins, so really the supplements can be a danger to your health, especially because its a newer than old thing. I don't remember a lot of what she said, since the class was close to a month ago. The jist of it is what I mentioned though. I mean, I've taken vitamin C supplements, but I really wasn't eating- I had a horrible eating habit.
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PaulaJoW		#11	[url]	[-]
Permanent Resident Posts: 4408 14/03/2008 07:26 Existing just to kiss you Board Contributor	I raised the question to my doctor about the amount of vitamins fruits and vegetables retain because more often than not they are shipped from all around the world great distances. He said they would have to be at the rotting stage before they lost their vitamins. I was surprised by that. I thought I read somewhere years ago that fruits and vegetables lost some of their nutrients in shipping. Maybe that was just a marketing ploy by the local growers.
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PaulaJoW		#12	[url]	[-]
Permanent Resident Posts: 4408 15/03/2008 08:36 Existing just to kiss you Board Contributor	Has anyone one here ever had or know someone that has had laser eye surgery? I was thinking of going to get an assessment done. I'm so sick of wearing glasses and can't seem to find suitable contact lenses anymore.
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hannah kipje		#13	[url]	[-]
Permanent Resident Posts: 8633 15/03/2008 15:53 Master of the House (Owner) Slighty delusional yet harmless builder of this board grin	I have NEVER heard of that rumour about fruits and veggies losing their vitamins through transport.. that has to be total bullsh*t! I know they lose vitamins when you cook them for too long. That is why it is important to cook them short and in little water, so that when the water is evaporated, the vitamins in the water will still 'stick' to the veggies. 20 years ago that also meant that veggies in cans and jars had a lot less vitamins, but nowadays, they use very short cooking times on them as well, so that is no longer true either. Same or frozen veggies, they have changed the freezing process, and it now goes to fast that the vitamins are frozen in and don't get the change to break down during the freezing process. Fresh is always better, but when you only eats veggies from the freezer, cans or jars you really do not need supplements either. I have a colleague that had laser eye surgery and she is very happy with it. She had some glasses... something like +14 and -9 or something like that and now she sees just fine without any help. I think the result does depend on what kind of problems you have with your eyes, but I am sure a good doctor can tell you what result you can expect for your eyes. Good luck with that! http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com
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InspectorWa		#14	[url]	[-]
Sleeps on the couch Posts: 1226 15/03/2008 21:39 Life Inspector	PaulaJoW wrote: Oxy, how does your body tell you it needs milk? Dunno how to explain this, but the food I need usually pops up in my mind. Concerning milk... my body usually says that when I see Macbeth pictures (and it tells me that milk is not the only thing I need at that moment )
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hannah kipje		#15	[url]	[-]
Permanent Resident Posts: 8633 15/03/2008 21:42 Master of the House (Owner) Slighty delusional yet harmless builder of this board grin	did you guys see this new emo: http://jamesmcavoy.yuku.com
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PaulaJoW		#16	[url]	[-]
Permanent Resident Posts: 4408 15/03/2008 21:47 Existing just to kiss you Board Contributor	I did see that emo, and MacBeth is the first thing I thought of! Which reminds me - I need to go watch that again. I think I will go get an assessment on my eyes. There's no harm in finding out what my options are.
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Larisie		#17	[url]	[-]
The Help (Mod Squad) Permanent Resident Posts: 3571 15/03/2008 22:12 Canadian Sweetheart	hannah kipje wrote: Same or frozen veggies, they have changed the freezing process, and it now goes to fast that the vitamins are frozen in and don't get the change to break down during the freezing process. Fresh is always better, but when you only eats veggies from the freezer, cans or jars you really do not need supplements either. Yeah, that's definitely true. These days frozen fruits & vegetables have just about the same amount of vitamins as fresh ones. I love using frozen fruits in my smoothies, instead of fresh...except for the banana.
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PaulaJoW		#18	[url]	[-]
Permanent Resident Posts: 4408 16/03/2008 00:17 Existing just to kiss you Board Contributor	Well, that's good to hear. There's one myth busted!
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jamesfanus		#19	[url]	[-]
Owns spare key to the front door Posts: 934 16/03/2008 02:27 Off the Deep End Official T-shirt Seller	All my docs say that women should take calcium supplements. I found one that does not upset my stomach. It is called Calcium Citrate Malate. I also read that now that people are using a lot of sunscreen, we are not getting enough vitamin D from the sun, and D is needed to metabolize calcium. So, it's probably a good idea to take a calcium supplement with D. It is preferable, but difficult, to get most of your calcium from dairy products. My mother in law suffered terribly from osteoporosis, a fate I hope to avoid. My doctor said that it's usually the iron in multivitamins that upsets your stomach. I take one that does not have iron, because I don't need it. I took a nutrition course and the nutritionist recommended Rainbow Light Just Once. She said that the problem with a lot of multivitamins is they don't dissolve in your stomach, so the vitamins are not absorbed. These do. I also take Omega 3s, which my knee surgeon recommends. I had to find one that doesn't have a fishy aftertaste. The Nordic Naturals brand is good. But I have also heard that taking a lot of vitamins is just giving yourself expensive pee, a waste of your money. There are a few vitamins on which you can overdose, such as A, so you do have to be careful.
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jamesfanus		#20	[url]	[-]
Owns spare key to the front door Posts: 934 16/03/2008 02:30 Off the Deep End Official T-shirt Seller	PaulaJoW wrote: Has anyone one here ever had or know someone that has had laser eye surgery? I was thinking of going to get an assessment done. I'm so sick of wearing glasses and can't seem to find suitable contact lenses anymore. My sister has laser eye surgery done. At first it was fine, but one of her eyes had to be redone after 6 months. She researched it very thoroughly. You have to wear eye goggles for 6 (?) weeks afterwards when you sleep, to avoid rubbing your eyes, which is annoying. I think she is happy with the results now.
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