A multi-strand story covering social and racial prejudices which twist around each other, connecting in unusual ways, until they culminate in a heart and mind-bending knot.
Some of the many players to jolt your memories....







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Selivia |
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Crash (2004), 3 time Oscar winner
A multi-strand story covering social and racial prejudices which twist around each other, connecting in unusual ways, until they culminate in a heart and mind-bending knot. Some of the many players to jolt your memories.... ![]() ![]()
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hannah kipje |
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It was on TV last weekend, but I didn't have time to finish watching it, so I still need to pop the DVD in to watch
the ending and then I will comment!
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Emilie |
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I must watch the whole thing again, because the whole story with Sandra Bullock escapes me...
There are so many touching moments and also scenes that challenge the viewer. The one that always comes to mind is when Graham (Don Cheadle's character) and his mother find out that Larenz Tate's character was murdered. The moment when his mother lovingly describes how "her baby" bought her groceries and then crazily blames Graham for his brother's death just breaks my little heart. Even though Graham knows that his mother is just plain wrong and slightly mental, it seems that all he wants is to take care of his mother and for her to love him unconditionally, as she does his younger brother. The emotional impact of the scene when Farhad, the shop owner, nearly kills the locksmith's daughter is unforgettable. It really seemed like a miracle and I never suspected that Dorri, the shop owner's daughter, had switched the bullets for blanks. It seems like this film gradually intensifies until everything explodes!
What do you all think of Matt Dillon's character, John Ryan?
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hannah kipje |
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I finished watching this film for the second time last night. I love it. The fact that all these people's lives
touch eachother the way they do is really too big a coincidence, yet it is brought in such a way, that it doesn't bother you too much.
En Emi, the shopkeepers daughter did not switch the bullets for blanks. Rewatch the first scene they are in, where they buy the gun. The shopkeeper of the gunshop is being a racist prick and does not explain to them which bullets they should take. So she just says: the red box (which are blanks) and he asks: 'Do you know what they are?' But she is pissed off and tells him to just give them to her, which is why they load the gun with blanks without realising. I agree that the scene with the little girl almost getting shop (again) is very touching. It was the moment I remembered best in the film. That and the accident with the burning car where the abusive cop saves the women he molested the night before. What did you not understand about the Sandra Bullock story Emi? She is married to the DA that is only interested in how he looks to his voters. So a white cop ends up being punished for shooting a black cop eventhough the black cop was thug, but the DA is afraid he will look bad to the black voters if he does not punish the white cop. It's 'positive' discrimination (as we call it in Holland) taken too far. His wife (Sandra) is always angry. Which comes from a feeling of not being in control. She is afraid of black men, but feels she is being a racist if she speaks up about it eventhough she had every reason to be afraid of the two that end up car jacking them. She is being quite abusive to the locksmith (who we know is very good husband and father) and to her South American housekeeper who seems to be very nice to her children, but when she fall down the stairs, none of her friends have time to come help her and the housekeeper ends up taking her to the hospital. At which point she realises that is the kind of friendship she needs and that it didn't come from her rich white friends. She also hugs the housekeeper and doesn't let go, proving the point made by the cop in the very first scene, where he says we need the human touch so badly that in LA where people do not touch, they crash into eachother instead. I loved this story. Every story is about discrimination, prejudice and racism, but no one is one-dimensional. The bad cop ends up risking his own life to save the car victim and the good cop, that saves her husband, ends up shooting a black men out of fear and prejudice. And it is not the white against the black people, or the black people against the Asians, they are ALL doing it to ALL the other people. The white gun shop owner to the Persian clients. The persian to the South American(?) locksmith, The black cop to his South-American partner, the partner to the Asian woman, the white woman to the black car thieves, the black car thieves to pretty much every Asian they encounter, etc. The film shows us why people do that without either judging or approving their reasons. It shows that it has become so deeply rooted in this culture that it is hard to point the finger at a 'guilty' party or to remove it out of that culture again. The black car thief with a racism ship on his shoulder is therefore a brilliant invention in this film. He is the one that vocalises all the opinions about racism, but at the same time, abuses it as to make his crimes seem legitimate and therefore proving some of the prejudice about him to be true. I think it is very good film. It keeps you interested from start to finish and takes you from one 'edge of the seat' moment to the other. It also makes you think, and I love films that do that. I have been thinking whether every storyline also had an actual crash in it, apart from the non-literal ones..
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Selivia |
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Sorry, I'm a little distracted, "Lost" is on.
The moments that I find that stay with me is - the little girl (almost) getting shot - heatrbreaking all round - the mishandling of the black wife by the policeman, teamed with his later redemption by saving her life - the shooting of the hitchiker by the off-duty policeman - the society wife's wake-up call with her housekeeper It's hard to say how I feel about this movie as my perceptions keep changing and I see different things (apart from the above scenes) every time. We don't get to hear many names throughout this movie - there are some mentioned incidentally but it follows my theory of writing - if the reader/audience doesn't have an absolute need to know, then don't bog them down with unnecessary details. People get hung up on names sometimes and that stalls the story. I will cross reference with IMDb so that we can talk about the characters. Jean Cabot (Sandra Bullock's role) is a central pivot to the other stories - she is the absolute xenophobic. We don't know why or how that happened, but perhaps growing up in a family of wealth, power, and prestige made her wary of those who don't have what she has; aware that they are jealous and will do anything to her to take it away - just my supposition. But for some reason she fears everyone who is the least bit different to her. Her "friends" all have the same background - but they are only "society" friends and are not there for her when she needs them, they cannot be relied upon to do anything that does not benefit them. She tries to order her life, to get some control, but it is only a mask to her fear and the more afraid she becomes - the bossier she gets. She is alone. Her friends are false; she's surrounded by people that she cannot relate to because of her xenophobia, she's locked away from them by background and also language (- she does not seem to know her maid's language even for little things around the house); the people in the street frighten her and when in one instance her fears are proven correct, she takes that as a sign that all of her paranoia is correct. Most of all, she is estranged from her husband. He doesn't talk to her, he doesn't listen. They communicate in short bursts of screaming. And he is having an affair with his PA. When she tells her maid that she is her only friend, she could not have been more right. The other stories all have something in common with this story, from the xenophobia/discrimination (major theme), to the fear and paranoia, jealousy/avarice, fear of humiliation/control mechanisms, and isolation (the other major theme). Thanks Hannah - I had missed the bit about the gun store owner and purchasing the blanks. I had thought that she had known and had deliberately bought the blanks because she didn't really want her father to have a gun at all. Actually, I thought the first gun was stolen when the shop was broken into. I'm only watching this on a medium size tv screen and haven't stopped the film to investigate fully - but I thought that was what happened when she ran to the drawer where the gun was/had been. Was the gun still there? Did you notice that the one person who died in the movie was the only one that had none of the negative aspects of the other characters? He was a sweet young guy who had fallen in with bad company, a bit useless but he had faith and a moral compass and had not developed the phobias and discriminations of his peers. Is innocense (or naivity) a crime against nature? Officer John Ryan (Matt Dillon's character) seemed to me to be essentially an honourable person. Why he behaves like that towards Christine Thayer (Thandie Newton's character - the black wife) at the begining is a little hard to fathom when his life is explored further. Maybe it was a front? or perhaps more likely, he is "angry" all the time too. He's in a job that gives him power but nobody respects it, she is very mouthy and really pushes all his buttons. She also seems to consider herself better than him - maybe he took out his frustration with the world by feeling her up like that, bringing her down a peg or two. Later when he saves her, he is the absolute epitome of a gentleman, and risks his life to rescue her. Maybe that was partially the guilt he felt towards what he had done but he had already been considerate and gentlemanly before realising who she was. The same went with his father. He was filled with compassion for the old man, never raised his voice at him, but was frustrated by "the system". When he spoke to the social worker, that frustration came across as anger, but was taken as aggression from the social worker getting on her wrong side so she wasn't going to put herself out to help him. Both of them were shouting at each other but nobody was listening. |
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hannah kipje |
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Yes Seli, the gun was still there.
I like your observations about the Sandra Bullock character, but even more the ones about the young car thief that ended up dead. You are right, he was the only one that wasn't blinded by hate, fear or racism. The Matt Dillon character: We do get to see a little bit of how he became so hateful of black people. When he goes in to see the HMO woman he tells her how his father had his onw company and hired black people and took good care of them, and then his company was bankrupted because of the cities 'positive discrimination' policy. Which is why his father was now poor and dependant on the HMO. What I especially love about this story is that it shows the ultimate bad guy, being not so bad at all. He did a bad thing and he is racist towards black people (especially the ones in power or that have to better than him), but he does take care of his elderly ill father and he risks his life to save someone elses, making him the ultimate hero of the story as well. It shows the same duality we see in real life. |
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hannah kipje wrote: Thanks for the refresher, babe.
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hannah kipje |
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yeah, go watch it Emi!
Seli, I love talking about film with you. I feel like I am doing my film analyses classes at university again
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Selivia |
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I feel that the whole movie is about mis-communication more than anything else. It is lack of the communication that would lead to understanding that is the
root of discrimination and eventual xenophobia; lack of communication creates a wall around all the characters and in being so isolated they then only
"hear" the other person through their own experiences and fears. Each character will say something that is quite ordinary to them, but agravates or
inflames others with the perceived mis-communication, and the aggravation escalates with successive mis-communication.
Awwww! Hannah! I love the chance to talk about them to and get other points of view - not a lot of people near me have the time, or the scope, to chat about films with me. |
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hannah kipje |
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I agree, a lack of communication, but caused by the fact that we get more and more isolated. The detective in the car at
the beginning of the film speaks about how people in LA do not touch anymore. They dont even walk, they drive in cars, being surrounded by steel and glass. All
these isolated people in their protective 'pods' that are not communicating anymore, but only occasionally 'crashing into eachother'.
That also makes Sandra's character so central to it all. She is the most isolated person in the film. She is also the only one that crashes on her own. All the others crash into someone else, but she just falls down the stairs.. |
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Selivia |
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As a movie, I find this one intriguing in that it improves with each re-watching.
When I first saw it, I didn't think much of it - mostly because of the hype around the Oscar nominations, and the flamboyant touting of the movie as a new and fresh way style - which it wasn't. It starts at the end, an increasingly common technique over the last several years and a good way to get the audience involved before filling in the details. It tells the story leading up to that ending from several points of view concurrently which had been done quite successfully by "Pulp Fiction", "Go" and "Two Hands", so I did not find it all that innovative. However, with successive viewings, the intricacies of each separate story become more apparant, and the weaving and blending of the characters between those stories more evident. It is a major problem with a movie that has a large, strong cast - it is hard for an audience to keep track of who they all are, and how they fit together. In "Crash" the characters don't each fit in just one story - like life itself, they play parts in several tales. The film is very much a treatise and indictment of our time, our era of self absorption and me'ism. The more isolated these characters become, the greater the mis-communication and they turn inwards to look only upon themselves and their own fortunes and well-being, growing jealousy and avarice for those who appear to have more or better circumstances than themselves, which in turn increases their isolation and lack of comprehension. The longer they stay out of anyone else's reach, the easier it becomes to do harm to them, deliberately or inadvertantly, because these others have little meaning beyond standing for what they do not have, beyond standing in their way to what they believe should be theirs. The only characters who appear to care for someone else (other than family), to have compassionate feelings are those who are paid to do so - the housemaid, the locksmith (he puts himself out to warn the shop-owner that it is not a lock that was needed, but a door), the policemen (despite the times when they cause more harm than good). Perhaps we should learn from the outcome of the tale this movie tells. The breakdown of society has already begun. We can only communicate through violence - we only touch when we crash into each other. |
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